[M/M]

If you think about it, when clothes spin in a drum, they don't spin against the drum - they spin with it.

So there is no friction between the garment and the drum - so the outside is not gonna be particularly affected on its own.

What happens is that the garment gets repeatedly twisted as it falls from the top of the drum to the bottom as the drum slows down.

Therefore, as Flo says, marks inside AND out.

WASH BY HAND

[Edward]

The guys who wore denim as workwear back in the day would, I'm sure find us hilarious the way we actually care about it... :lol:

I need to prewash my Big Bs - the Wabash ones I know are raw; is this the same for the ones that came from the kickstarter? I bought both pairs long so I can have a proper turnup machined on them. Just want to be sure they're not gonig to shrink significantly after I've had them cut to length. Should I risk having them finished at a half-inch or an inch longer than normal, just to be on the safe side?

[SJC]

Start with a good hot soak inside out, then a wash, no soap. Then tailor. 95% of the shrink will be gone.

[Edward]

Cool, will do. Thanks.

[sloan1874]

Ah, bloody marbling, as Mister Freedom accurately describes it. I have a couple of pairs that have suffered it, which is probably more irritating the darker your jeans are. I think, beyond hand washing them, turning them inside out is the closest, though not perfect, remedy I've found.

[Unkraut]

Do you guys got some fade pics from the kickstarter lot yet? New thread?

[Resortes805]

The jeans I do yard work in get washed; the jeans I wear once or twice a week don't.

[Spritle]

Same with me. My jeans get hand washed and worn for work until something happens like a stain, a snag, or just too grubby. Then they go into the "everyday" pile and from there on out its the washing machine.