[Pat Spade]

I also would buy a pair of Vaugan trews with a wide leg. The current ones are fine, I wear mine very often, and are not that narrow than feared, but a wider leg would be highly appreciated.

[RockinByrdie]

Okay, just put in chocolate and also a navy version for sampling

Yes yes yes!!

[Unkraut]

Duck canvas? Cotton twill? Heavier than last years summer pants I suppose

[metatron]

Btw while the grading in the second work suit is much improved,
I liked the front button arrangement of the old one more, with the buttons closer together.
I think in this respect it was closer to the original and a bit more elegant.

Having said that, if you feel this tweak can throw the grading out of whack forget about it.

[Rudie]

I agree. Keeping the top button at the same height so the lapels stay the same but raising the two lower buttons would look even better.

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I would like to know if the vaugan garments shrink as much as the chambray or do they stay true to the size charts? I am especially interested in the measurements for the waistcoat, sizes 40 and 42. Can anybody provide measurements after washing? Thanks.

[metatron]

I got the 40, while I don't have before measurements it did not shrink much.

With the cinch loose
pit to pit just short of 21 inches
back length 22 inches, with front points 23.5-24.

Edit: just compared with the chart now and it is almost exact. Well done Simon for running a tight ship.

[NCF]

Will probably order the jacket in the next few days. Am I correct in understanding that there is no or very little shrinking (the thing is that 36 is a bit too small and 38 a bit too large so I was kind of hoping that a few parts would shrink)?

[Spritle]

Not a lot of shrinkage (I soaked my pants in boiling kettle water for 2 hrs), but If you go 36, soak cold and hang dry.

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Here are my pants after 2 rounds at the tailors:


I wont be wearing a shirt tucked in with them as they are still too big up top.


By taking in the side seams I lost the use of the pockets. I'm not happy about that, but if we didn't sew them up they stuck out like elephant ears.
My take- don't size up!!!
Also, my top button needed to be moved over. As it arrived, the fly looked undone. It still bunches up strangely in the crotch when I sit. Maybe something can be done to fix that going forward.

[NCF]

My take- don't size up!!!

Would you give me that advice for the jacket as well? Not that 36 is an option anymore though, as it appears to be sold out.

[Spritle]

My experience is limited to trousers, but it seems the choice is made for you.

[NCF]

Yes, the universe appears to have made my decision for me.

[metatron]

My estimate is that the trousers fit a bit generous, up to half a size up which is fine for anticipated shrinkage and for wear with braces. Taking the trousers in to a size down certainly is not an unusual alteration.
Which leads me to: what sort of alteration requires the removal of pockets? That sounds a tad bizarre to me.

The jacket is also true to size, but not slim fit.

I have overall found the measurements to be accurate.

[swinglish]

Not a lot of shrinkage (I soaked my pants in boiling kettle water for 2 hrs), but If you go 36, soak cold and hang dry.

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Here are my pants after 2 rounds at the tailors:


I wont be wearing a shirt tucked in with them as they are still too big up top.


By taking in the side seams I lost the use of the pockets. I'm not happy about that, but if we didn't sew them up they stuck out like elephant ears.
My take- don't size up!!!
Also, my top button needed to be moved over. As it arrived, the fly looked undone. It still bunches up strangely in the crotch when I sit. Maybe something can be done to fix that going forward.

@Spritle, from the pictures it looks like you're trying to wear them resting on your hips rather than at your true waist (just below or at your navel)... is that right?

[Jake Gittes]

My estimate is that the trousers fit a bit generous, up to half a size up which is fine for anticipated shrinkage and for wear with braces. Taking the trousers in to a size down certainly is not an unusual alteration.
Which leads me to: what sort of alteration requires the removal of pockets? That sounds a tad bizarre to me.

The jacket is also true to size, but not slim fit.

I have overall found the measurements to be accurate.

It sounds odd, indeed. I believe pockets may be affected if you want to narrow a trouser's leg width by a great extent, but taking down a single size is a perfectly manageable alteration.

[Spritle]

My point is that they are cut "generously". If you "size up" there is a lot of fabric. I should have gone at my normal size of 32, but ordered 34 as recommended. Maybe even a 30 would have worked- my very expensive mistake.